July 07, 2016

So 'do ya' know the story behind Roy Wood, Jeff Lynne, The Move & ELO?

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Throughout this website you will find stories about unsung heroes, 45’s, and my encounters with many rock stars over the years. The following is pretty much a combination of all of the above.

Ever since 1967 when I spent most of the summer living in London, I have been a big fan of the English group called The Move. While this band was extremely popular in the UK, they are virtually unknown in the US. They had several top ten hits in England, but only one song ever even reached the top 100 songs on this side of the ocean.

Roy Wood (then only 17) was the founding leader of The Move. He wrote “Flowers in the Rain”, “Fire Brigade”, “I can Hear the Grass Grow”, “Night of Fear” (all top 5) and “Blackberry Way” (went to number 1) that all became top ten singles in the UK before he was 20 years old. His music influenced many other English groups of the progressive rock era and he earned the nick name of the Wizard. It seemed that there wasn’t an instrument that Roy couldn’t play.

All the while The Move and Roy were frustrated that none of their songs were hits in the US. In 1970 another musician named Jeff Lynne from Roy’s home town of Birmingham, England joined the band. It seemed at first that Roy and Jeff were on the same page.

Both of them loved the idea of mixing in classical music with rock. With that notion in mind, they started to fool around with the idea in the studio. That experimentation led to an instrumental song (where Roy did most of the instrumentation) 10538 Overture and The Electric Light Orchestra was born.

Since that song wasn’t done by a real band, Jeff Lynne’s initial idea was to have the song be part of the new Move album that was also in progress. It was Roy who vetoed the idea and want it to be part of a separate group of his making. At that same time Jeff, who had his own mini studio in his mother’s living room, wrote and recorded another song for the album. That song was called “Do Ya”.

In my interview with Jeff Lynne he told me that things between he and Roy started to fray with that song. The Move was Roy’s band and he had written almost all the material for it since the start. The Wizard wasn’t thrilled that “Do Ya” was considered to be the best song on the new album and was released as a single in the US. After all, his song “California Man” was the A side in England and it made it to the top ten. It didn’t help that the 45 was the only single to ever even make the charts (went to number 93) for The Move in this country.

Since I was already a fan of The Move, I was convinced that “Do Ya” was a hit single. So much so that I added it to the WIBG playlist from the day it was released. That was the only reason that the song made the charts. It was a big hit in Philadelphia, but strangely got no air play anywhere else.

Very soon after the failure of “Do Ya” to become a big hit, Roy Wood broke up The Move and turned all his energy to The Electric Light Orchestra. It soon became a real band strings and all. Just when it seemed like this might be the vehicle that would finally make Roy Wood an international star, he suddenly left his own group and started a new one called Wizzard. As it turned out, it wasn’t a great career move. Wizzard never caught on and ELO became a super group under Jeff Lynne’s leadership.

Jeff Lynne’s version of what happened to The Move and why Roy left ELO (that was his own pet project) was slightly different than Roy’s. At the time that Roy left ELO he said it was because of management problems and contracts. Jeff’s story was that Roy was very unhappy with the fact that the record company preferred “Do Ya” to any of Roy’s songs for a single and was feeling that he was losing control of his own band. Jeff’s songs for ELO were more mainstream. Some critics went so far as to compare Jeff’s writings to that of The Beatles. Ironically, Jeff did became one George Harrison’s best friends. There was even some talk of Jeff replacing John Lennon after his death in an attempt to bring back The Beatles. None of that happened, but Jeff did team up with Harrison, Bob Dylan, Roy Orbison, and Tom Petty to create the mythical group called The Traveling Wilburys.

Even more ironic was that the Jeff Lynne song “Do Ya” was remade and released as a single again in 1976. This time it was a big hit. Meanwhile, Roy Wood (while still performing in the UK) remains an unsung hero. There is also a band that plays in the UK on occasion called The Move that features two original members, but without Lynne or Wood they can hardly be called The Move.



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  • Comment Link Sean vasey Monday, March 27, 2023 posted by Sean vasey

    How anyone can say Wizard weren't successful is beyond me.
    They had some huge hits fhs !!
    Wood was (is) a tremendous musician and a great frontman.
    I was just a nipper when The Move were in their pomp, but again, there were some great songs written.
    The music business is littered with fall outs of friends due to egos etc, but that's life.

  • Comment Link Barry Windsor-Smith Thursday, March 2, 2023 posted by Barry Windsor-Smith

    I am a British artist and writer who has lived in New York since the early 1970s. I remember loving early MOVE songs on the radio, but after moving to the USA I lost my connection to Roy Wood and his music.
    I have all of Roy's L.P.s and some on CD. In my opinion ELO were a terrific band that would have been better still with Roy Wood's lyrics and melodies on the occasion. I think that The MOVE entertained and influenced everybody.

  • Comment Link Doug Jones Monday, May 9, 2022 posted by Doug Jones

    I’m in the Frisco area. In 1967 I had been reading
    about The Move in press notices, often mentioning them in the same paragraphs asMarc Bolan & Pink Floyd.
    There was a 2nd hand store nearby that had a stack of 45s rejected by local radio program directors. Lo & behold: there was Curly backed with This Tome Tomorrow!
    I got home & became an instant Move fan.
    I still am.

  • Comment Link Patrick Walling Tuesday, February 8, 2022 posted by Patrick Walling

    This is always a difficult issue to write about as only Roy and Jeff will really know what happened regarding Roy's seemingly, ' early and hasty ' departure from ELO.

    However my purpose of leaving this comment is that the point made in the headline about Wizzard not being successful is just ridiculous.
    Maybe from an uninformed and/or US ' centric perspective. In reality, they were incredibly successful and I as a fan, at the time, watched our friends follow them avidly too.

    Alongside this, younger generations MUST be away to that Roy was also writing is own music and experimenting with new classical instruments and themes and released a highly acclaimed ( rightly so ) album called 'Boulders' which alongside others not on the album, produced a string of Top 10 singles for Roy, in the UK.

    He has been a HUGE musical influence in this country as has Jeff but Roy wrote all those Move hit and his own and had a string of hits with Wizzard including 2 Number 1s on top of his other great Wizzard track, including ( not only) the wonderful Christmas Hit that still enthralled Christmas and Children especially, TODAY!
    THANK YOU ROY ( and All the Move and Wizzard Guys. I still laugh at Rick Price's Antics, in a Girilla Suite on Rock n Roll Winter from Wizzard in 1974!!! ) Special! FUN DAYS in the 1970s!

  • Comment Link JJ Sunday, December 12, 2021 posted by JJ

    I've heard many versions of the story of Roy leaving ELO but never heard this one. It's interesting and may be plausible. But Dr. Roy's music with Wizzard was excellent and I can't understand how it wasn't a hit in the US. Roy has been very successful, had top10 hits with The Move, ELO, Wizzard, and as a solo artist! How many artists can you say that about.

  • Comment Link Ronald Logan Sunday, September 26, 2021 posted by Ronald Logan

    Amazing story. I first saw ELO in 74 in frankfurt Germany and have followed Jef closely. I would love to hear the story of jeff and the sountrck of Zanadoo

  • Comment Link paul fenlon Tuesday, May 18, 2021 posted by paul fenlon

    Roy wood is magical.....roads take you in different ways....his road was his to follow! he went his way! WOW......ROY WOOD.....thanks...

  • Comment Link Kev the Bhoy Saturday, December 5, 2020 posted by Kev the Bhoy

    I'm just so grateful to be alive at the same time as two great musicians as Jeff Lynne and Roy Wood. Birmingham is the best city for music. Liverpool ain't so bad either.

  • Comment Link Barry Margolis Friday, May 31, 2019 posted by Barry Margolis

    Yes....Wizzard were HUGE in the UK:

  • Comment Link Si Tuesday, May 7, 2019 posted by Si

    Much as I love Jeff Lynne's ELO it's hard to dismiss Wizard as 'never really catching on'. They had many huge hits in the UK and are still very much loved and respected. Their massive Xmas No1 comes round reliably every year here. Even their rock n rollers are far more, musically, than simple rock and roll.

    Sure, Roy Wood, made some poor decisions at the time of The Move breakup but he has had a great career since then. It's merely the huge contrast with the greatness of ELO that makes it seem less than it was.

    I always find myself imagining what could have been if they'd stayed together and ridden out their differences. They really could have been the Beatles for the 70s and on...

  • Comment Link Keith D.Plunk Monday, May 8, 2017 posted by Keith D.Plunk

    I HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN JEFF WAS A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW. I AM A STUDIO RECLUSIVE NOW AFTER WATCHING HIM WORK OVER THE YEARS. I AM WRITING INCREDIBLY GOOD SONGS AND ONE DAY HE WILL HEAR THEM AS I HAVE HEARD HIS. It is my dream that perhaps he would cut my material. Yeah, it's that good....finally after much pain and suffering in life I am giving my nervous system to these songs. Thankyou Jeff for loving music and The Beatles because without it all pop music would have a big hole. Later Comrade. You are magnificent. See you around...

  • Comment Link njbruce Friday, February 17, 2017 posted by njbruce

    By the way, I did have occasion to speak with Jeff Lynne on a radio call in show. When I asked about his relationship at that time (pre-Wilburys) with Roy Wood and if they had any plans to make music together again, he seemed very reticent.

  • Comment Link njbruce Friday, February 17, 2017 posted by njbruce

    Hello T. I am curious, I grew up in the Philadelphia area and remember the radio station WIBG quite well. Would I recognize your radio name? By the time The Move (who I very much appreciated and have all their albums) were even known here in the US, WIBG was a faltering AM station in the new progressive FM wave. I do appreciate your perspective.

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